I have my PT test coming up and I am also out processing for PCS. I have never failed a PT test but I am a big guy so I always worry about my waist. They taped me at a 36 last year at the FAC but I know better than that, in my defense I am 6'4" so I am not fat, just a big guy.
Could a failed PT test keep you from PCSing. The AFI's (below) are kind of vague on the subject.
Any information would be helpful.
AIR FORCE INSTRUCTION 36-2110
22 SEPTEMBER 2009 - Incorporating Change 1, 1 October 2011
2.40. Assignment Quality Control. All Airmen are responsible for meeting the AF quality standards to remain on active duty. Commanders must take appropriate rehabilitative, administrative, or disciplinary action for substandard Airmen. The assignment quality control program establishes the minimum AF standards Airmen must meet to be eligible for PCS reassignment.
184.108.40.206. Airmen failing to meet physical fitness standards. Failure to meet physical fitness standards does not, in itself, impact Airman’s assignment or assignment selection. However, commander-directed disciplinary/rehabilitative actions such as control roster, UIF, and such due to failure to meet physical fitness standards can preclude assignment or assignment selection. Recommended administrative/personnel actions for failure to meet physical fitness standards are addressed in AFI 10-408, Fitness Program, Attachments 13. Additional options not mentioned in AFI 10-408 may be considered. These options include requesting RNLTD delays as an exception to allow the Airman an opportunity to retest, as well as, requesting Commander- Directed Hold (AAC 21), providing specific justification to HQ AFPC/DPAPP for consideration. If the commander elects to request assignment cancellation due to administrative/personnel actions taken as a result of fitness failure, an assignment quality control review must be accomplished IAW paragraph 2.40.7.
3 January 2012
AFI 36-2905, Fitness Program
4.2.4. PCS Moves. Exemptions are not granted for members in outbound status. Members pending PCS must have a current FA score on file that will not expire prior to the Report-No- Later-Than-Date (RNLTD) at the next duty location. If the score expires prior to the RNLTD at the next duty location, member must be scheduled for a FA before their departure. A member in inbound status is given 42 days from his/her Date Arrive Station (DAS) date to acclimatize before assessment.
This is the place for you fitness, diet and nutrition questions...
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You posted the answer as part of your question. If you need help learning how to interpret the AFIs that you cut'n'pasted, talk to your supervisory chain.
thank you for you valuable input.
Let me restate my confusion:
36-2110 ASSIGNMENTS (Dated 22 SEPTEMBER 2009 and Incorporating Change 1, 1 October 2011) references AFI 10-408, Fitness Program, Attachments 13 but the current fitness AFI is 36-2905 Fitness Program (Dated 3 January 2012).
All the current Fitness AFI says is that PCS movers must have a current fitness test and not whether it has to be passing.
Also, the current assignments AFI only states, "Failure to meet physical fitness standards does not, in itself, impact Airman’s assignment...".
It also states. "Recommended administrative/personnel actions for failure to meet physical fitness standards are addressed in AFI 10-408, Fitness Program, Attachments 13. Additional options not mentioned in AFI 10-408 may be considered." But like I said 10-408 is not the current fitness AFI.
I have brought this to leaderships attention but figured we are all on the same team and if some one already had and answer to my question they could assist.
So, thanks for your help kind sir, your comment is the exact reason I have only 22 posts in 7 years. I think it is awesome how we are all willing to share information and help each other out.
The AFI are just that, left open to interpretation. The interpretation of me, you, the hundreds of others on this website as well as those in my leadership chain and at the very agencies you are telling me to visit for answers.
All I was looking for was another opinion. Yes this issue will be brought to my leadership and more than likely other agencies, if needed but there is nothing wrong with looking for the inputs of the global wingman.
I took your response as, go ask someone else. And if that is harsh then I apologize but PCSing brings stress, fitness testing brings stress and not having answers causes stress.
I am done, good day.
I am within 30 days of PCSing and within 30 days of not being current on my fit test. I dont think i will fail but i do freak out a little and I have always been one to prepare myself for the worst. Another interesting fact is that my CC is also in charge over the subordinate I will be PCSing too.
thanks for the info.
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